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yes

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church

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to my friend bill journey

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bill passed away

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april 24th here in los angeles at cedar

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sinai hospital from a heart attack

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and

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now

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that uh

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a a very which seems like a lifetime ago

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ten years ago longer

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uh

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network

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uh bill and i worked together in uh at a

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company uh here in burbank

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and uh we became friends he was a

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voice-over artist uh a very good one and

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a coach a voice-over coach

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and we would sit and listen to talk

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radio

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and voice-over artists and and and talk

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about

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the voice and radio

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it just seemed like forever and i told

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him

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what i was going to do and that i had

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these plans and

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and going to school and and broadcast

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and and

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and he stood by me you know the whole

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way through it all and after

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uh we

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launched the network and i i spent time

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i drove out to his house in the

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riverside where he had a a studio

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and and got some coaching from him and

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and we just became really good friends

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and stayed friends over the years and

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um

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he he's just a very very gifted guy and

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he was the movie trailer guy did lots of

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movie trailers you know he's that guy

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she's back

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that was that was bill he had an amazing

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uh technique and voice well anyway

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uh

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he just just

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came to his end with his

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with his life here on earth and it was

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very very sudden took us all by surprise

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know stunned

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stunned

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and uh and one of the things now and

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it's looking back you just don't because

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these things are so unexpected

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that uh

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uh rita said to me today she goes didn't

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he did voiceover stuff for us right

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and the answer to that was no

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but we were going to

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right

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we were going to we had plans we had

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talked about it every time you know and

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and uh

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he visited the bunker a couple of times

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and man you know

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just just just really really really

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bummed and now

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you know

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there's no bill journey voiceovers here

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i can't i can't believe it

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well anyway

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uh bill this show was uh dedicated to

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you and and you really really stood by

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rita and i and you knew that we were

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taking big chances uh when we launched

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uh the network uh 10 years ago and you

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thought it was the right thing to do

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and you encouraged us and uh so sad that

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i have to dedicate this show

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to you so rest in peace

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bill journey

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all right let's uh let's do this do this

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for bill the show must go on

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the show must go on she's back

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he had those pipes bad

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he was the real deal let's go straight

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to the phones hi you're live on fade to

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black who's calling

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hi jimmy this is uh kevin from west

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virginia hey kevin from west virginia

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how are you tonight man

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oh not too bad i had planned on doing

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this thursday but uh

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since fader night was moved up to uh

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tonight tuesday yep this is my little

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thing on primer

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oh yeah oh okay okay okay okay so

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uh i want to hear every word of it so

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you watched it

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and i'm gonna i'm just gonna hand the uh

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the keys to the car over to you what'd

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you think

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uh it

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like like you said earlier um you know

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don't really pay attention to the time

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machine there were several different

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versions of it of course it seemed to

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the dialogue was very technical

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like you said before

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uh i caught a lot of it and some of it

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you know it kind of went over the head

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but uh i had read before i watched the

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film actually i had read uh what a

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couple people have said about the film

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and if you get it all in one setting

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you're you're uh basically lying

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yeah you're a physicist

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yeah there's so much going yeah there's

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so much going on in this little

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independent and you're right it was

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about seven thousand dollars the budget

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and you know not to give any any plot

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away for those who haven't seen it

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but if you like time travel films watch

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primer

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it's it's a it's a great gem

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i've you know i was paying attention to

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the dialogue and a couple things i

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jotted down and this is not really

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giving any of the plot away sure but uh

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when the two characters

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were talking

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and you know we're talking about getting

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something to eat

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and the one character said that uh

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you know he didn't want to do the steak

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let's just grab some tacos on the way

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back to the shop the shop being of

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course where they had the time machine

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seriously

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trippy isn't it yeah yeah trippy isn't

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it as as as a fate or not

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where we we go through these isms right

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each night on the show

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uh and then they pop up in in not a film

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or daily life or whatever you hear them

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and isn't that interesting i've got to

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go back now and and watch the film again

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and uh and and check it out uh for all

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you bring up i want you to finish your

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but you bring up a really really really

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good point which is this um

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budget on this film

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if somebody doesn't watch the film

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because they find out about that

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that is a a really really bad situation

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and and what i and what i mean by that

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is uh hold on for a second i seem to

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have lost are you back

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yes okay yeah i lost you there for a

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it would be a great loss because so many

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you know big budget numbers or a big

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what is amazing to me about that seven

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thousand dollar number is how fantastic

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with that kind of budget that is is

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it's never about

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the budget it's not it's about the

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screenplay it's about the characters

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that's what it's about if you have a one

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uh if you have something that is shot

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outdoors you know look at the movie like

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stand by me

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a bunch of kids just talking

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right there's there's

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that's all the movie is there is you

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know that's that's it where it it's

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about the dialogue and if you think

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about that that's the way you need to

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approach this movie

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um now what did you think about uh what

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um all of the uh

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the time travel uh

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vernacular

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right all of the terms all of the the

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ideas and theories and paradoxes and

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everything else that we associate with

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yeah what did you think about its

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representation in in primer

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very well and it also uh i i had the

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the more you do the time travel the more

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things get mixed

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mixed up messed up

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and i don't want to like i said i don't

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want to give away the ending but the

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ending just kind of like wow yeah i know

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i know i know i know and somebody to put

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it to yeah to put it uh mildly

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it takes everything that you just seen

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to a whole new level it really does it

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really does it's such a great movie and

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i'm glad that you saw it

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and uh now in the end

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thanks thanks for recommending the film

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yeah yeah my pleasure and

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when you get to the end of the film

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uh you know we keep going back to the

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seven thousand dollar budget thing when

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you get to the end of the film and the

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credits are rolling

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does the refrigerator box time machine

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or that budget which you knew about in

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advance

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did did that even come into play

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it didn't even factor it doesn't factor

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it's that incredible of a movie

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kevin thank you so much man and i can't

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wait uh the fader knots uh love you and

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everybody that's listening to this right

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the distributor for uh primer's gonna go

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wow these numbers really shot up this

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great film yeah it's a great film it's

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great i highly recommend it

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yeah thank you jimmy how how many times

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have you seen it once or twice i've i've

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seen it twice twice and i plan on seeing

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it several times you have to yeah that's

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exactly my point the second time through

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yeah each time you watch it you're gonna

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pick up something else yeah the second

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time through for me i remember the

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second time through i was like wait a

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minute as a matter of fact the second

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time i saw it

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i i i could not believe i missed

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50 percent of of of the movie

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the first time through the second time

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through and then the third and fourth

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uh the storyline and the script writing

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is bleep and genius

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you know and yeah this is

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this is a film that you cannot just

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start watching

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and start daydreaming

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or you know look at your cell phone you

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have to pay attention you have to those

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are the kind of films

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especially when it has to do with time

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travel which i'm highly interested in

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anyway

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and i was just

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sitting there glued

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to see where it was going to go next

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it's that kind of film

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you know uh

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i tell you what kind of film it is

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if hollywood went in and did a remake of

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this

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they'd ruin it

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exactly i guarantee it it would be

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ruined kevin enjoy the rest of your

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night man and thank you for making this

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fader night so special thank you so much

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thank you jimmy

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that's kevin from west virginia and i'm

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telling everybody right now

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you just heard it from kevin

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primer

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p-r-i-m-e-r

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it might be

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i i don't know

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it might be the best time travel movie

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ever made

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you've got to check it out primer let's

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go back to the phones how you're live

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i'm fade to black who's calling

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hi jimmy this is terena how are you hi

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terita how are you

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i'm great oh my gosh i'm so great thank

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you for asking how are you agree to do

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it it's uh it's tuesday night everything

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is good

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good i'm glad to hear that well guess

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what what

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you will your challenge has been greatly

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accepted and you better be in washington

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i'm not kidding you better be you and

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rita better be at my finish line when i

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network that i am going public with on

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it and um

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i'll kind of tell you a little bit

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quickly what we're doing um i i will be

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arriving in rapid on friday and um i

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have made it from spearfish to rapid so

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now that i made it into the city and i

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kind of woke up the city a little bit

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about what i was doing um i got a bunch

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of people jumped on board with me and

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what we're going to do is we're going to

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take a convoy of us and we're going to

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walk all the way to dc

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and uh we're going to uh i'm going to

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take like a native american drum group

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and spiritual leaders with me and um

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just people to help us network along the

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way we're setting up a website and we're

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gonna get sponsors to sponsor us to get

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us out there and uh we'll stop off and

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do ceremony that uh the reservations

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along the way and meet with spiritual

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leaders and then uh we'll camp out and

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then get back on the road and walk

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through and uh we plan we plan we give

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ourselves about you know eight to ten

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days of walking twelve to fourteen hours

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a day and we'll have like twelve walkers

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with us we're all walking like four

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hours whatever and

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then somebody else will jump in walk or

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run whatever and then we'll just do that

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for 12 to 14 hours and then stop and

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rest and then do a ceremony in the

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morning and take off again and just go

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until we get there and i'm working with

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the organization and a group that has

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been involved in a walk before not a

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walk but a horse ride and they went from

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denver to the white house but on horses

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and stuff like that and there's it

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wasn't for humanity it was for like to

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raise money for a cause or whatever they

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were doing but they've done it before

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and so they're pretty educated in what

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we need to do to get geared up and ready

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we plan on leaving june 7th and uh

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giving us two weeks to get out there

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and uh yeah so we're gonna raise um get

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sponsors and raise money to get us going

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so that we can get t-shirts for all

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those that sponsor us and uh we'll show

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everything on our web page you know what

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we're doing how much money is coming in

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where we're spending it at and make

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everything legit and get out to

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washington and we'll meet with the bia

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authors the bia people and the native

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american people that are in the

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government out there and have them um

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set up some tp for us and and feed us

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and have a kind of a celebration once we

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get there knocked on the white house

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yes you see what you did you started

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this wow that's incredible now did you

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say

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june 7th that's in five weeks

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yes we we will be ready to go i mean

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that'll give us enough time to raise

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money to go we need at least probably

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you know ten thousand to get us out of

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here and to work i think we're taking

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like six cars with us and then i'm gonna

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try to see if i can get somebody to

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sponsor an rv so that the elders that

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are trapped the spiritual leaders that

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are traveling with us can rest and i can

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rest right but like i will i will always

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be on the front line because it's you

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know something that i started from

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spearfish and they're gonna support me

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and walk with me and get me out to

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washington so that i have um people

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switching me out but

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the main thing is to wave raise

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awareness that

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we've all we're all guilty of putting

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negative energy on this planet by

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walking on it and sabotaging ourselves

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so therefore we're sabotaging the planet

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so the the thing that i'm making

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awareness is that this is our star this

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belongs to star nation we are part of

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that this is our planet and just walk

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and clear your own energy clear it with

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yourself forgive those that wronged you

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forgive yourself for wronging yourself

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and others and create good frequency

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loving frequency on this planet so that

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we're all rising to another frequency

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another a higher freak vibration so that

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um when star nation starts coming down

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here and making things known and we're

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switching into a different timeline

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things will start changing and shifting

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a little bit the weather patterns

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whatever people won't know what shocked

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them but um that way when

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stuff starts getting known nobody's not

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really freaked out or scared or you know

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and to help raise awareness with donald

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trump and i told my native i might be

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the only native person that likes donald

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trump but i it may be me that softens up

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the native american um my community by

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saying you know we i told him at this

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meeting i said we cannot be judging him

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because he's got a lot on his plate

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every president that comes in we're

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gonna find something wrong with them who

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are we to be judging him and what he's

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doing he has not taken our money he's

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given them his salary to the retired

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vets i go we need to start doing stuff

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in our own community before we start

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picking bones with him i said when i go

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there i will hopefully he'll come out

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and shake my hand because i'm all about

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make getting on his team and getting our

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people on awareness that we've got to

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stay american-made and inc and we've got

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to use our own resources and we've got

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to quit blaming and you know playing all

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these politicians against each other

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because then we're creating that

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negative frequency and that's what i'm

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walking from walking for everybody i

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don't even know that's doing good and

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the ones that are struggling and so

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that's what my walk is going to do is to

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shock the planet and bring as we pass

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through the major cities um the guy that

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has been involved in these walks and

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organized him his um his uncles are very

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powerful we are very powerful i mean our

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governor our

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mayor our

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sheriffs and stuff the chief the chief

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of the sheriff's department rapid city

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they've all gone into ceremony with him

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that's how big he's respected but what

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we'll do is when we pat we'll get media

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as soon as we pass through those major

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cities and those um those tight areas

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we'll get on the media and ask anybody

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in those cities and communities that

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want to bring good to their cities and

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their communities and and their families

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and their friends come out there and

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walk with us and get us through there

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and then they can go back or whatever

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they can stay with us whatever but just

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get us through there and then he said

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what will happen is we'll clog up with

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you know whoever maybe 7 500 people will

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walk with us through their communities

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or through their cities or their towns

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and then we'll keep on going and and get

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through that way all the way through

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we're getting all those communities

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involved in helping their areas so it's

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going to be something that's definitely

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uh foot by foot walk for humanity

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nobody's ever done anything of the sort

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i mean people have walked for cancer and

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organizations and raised money but this

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is not to raise money for any of that

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and you know i told them i said whatever

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we have left over let's use it and put

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it into a project in our community in

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rapid city or spearfish when we get back

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and so that's what we're doing i said my

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friend jimmy church from california from

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hollywood put me to the test he said go

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take it to washington to read it i'll be

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there i go and they're like well let's

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take this challenge i said all right

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be careful be careful what you wish for

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jimmy and uh

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i think this is fantastic and now uh two

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weeks that seems very quick

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well we kind of mapped it out if we can

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try if we can stay on foot see i was

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clearing about 14 miles in about

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four and a half five hours by myself and

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that was just walking so we figured if

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we could get people to just walk or run

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it and we can be out there for 12 hours

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we should be able to clear

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we're thinking maybe

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we want to try to clear like close to

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200 miles a day if we can walk maybe or

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or we just don't know we don't know who

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all can walk with us you know i mean we

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if somebody wants to go ahead of us

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that's fine we're just going to keep on

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going we're not going to stop it until

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we want to walk 14 hours a day in 14

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hours a day with walkers and runners

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then we should be able to put clear some

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mileage on that we're thinking literally

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about 8 to 10

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walking days of 12 to 14 hours a day

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okay i i'm going to jump in and i'm

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going to say

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walking from spear fish to washington dc

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i'm already i'm already in rapid city

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remember i've already walked it to rapid

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city by myself and that's what made them

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jump in it was i i it's kind of like i

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came from the country into the big city

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and i'm like hey i came here and walked

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and prayed for good for the planet

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they're like hey we want to you know we

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want to let's do this let's just take it

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to washington yeah you're right okay

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you've got you've got our support and so

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everything that uh

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that we can do we will do uh we'll help

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you raise the money and we'll do all the

548
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you know we'll help you out with some

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publicity and

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and uh we'll throw all of our social

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media behind you and

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and thank you jimmy yeah rita's rita's

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down the hall in her studio but i know

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that she is

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she's very excited about this this is

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really this is really really cool so

557
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,080
um give me i do whatever jimmy jimmy i

558
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,320
put your i kind of um gave you some

559
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,640
recognition up on my facebook just to

560
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:38,880
let people know that are walking with me

561
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,480
that are in this organization that i'm

562
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,600
walking with

563
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:43,919
to kind of give them some 4-1-1 on you

564
00:21:47,669 --> 00:21:45,840
like who you are what you're feeling how

565
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,679
you're you're broadcasting who your wife

566
00:21:52,310 --> 00:21:49,679
is what you guys are about because

567
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,320
that's that really excited them that i

568
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:54,240
had a connection out there that was

569
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,320
media that could help us and so what

570
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,559
we'll do jimmy is we will have an elder

571
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,720
lady with us that will be networking on

572
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:02,640
the computer and then we'll have

573
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,640
networkers back in rapid city and we'll

574
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:06,480
have we're going to have fox news and

575
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,200
the native american newspapers contact

576
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:11,440
um help us or maybe you can to help us

577
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:13,760
contact the local medias as we move into

578
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:16,080
those cities and we'll have somebody

579
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:17,360
that will be notifying the police

580
00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:18,720
departments when we come through on

581
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,960
those heavy traffic area and we'll have

582
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,039
a pilot car that will have

583
00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:25,440
walking for humanity washington dc

584
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:27,760
that'll stay behind us on the side on

585
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:29,120
the

586
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,840
team all that we'll have a front car and

587
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:35,440
a back car that'll be watching for us

588
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,080
for our safety but um the biggest thing

589
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:40,159
that i want to want you to know is that

590
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,760
i appreciate everything you and the

591
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,919
community debate or not everybody that

592
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:45,200
you're about

593
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,720
what you guys are about i'm going to go

594
00:22:50,149 --> 00:22:48,159
out on the front line and i'm going to

595
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:50,159
shock this planet and raise people's

596
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:51,600
vibrations and

597
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,559
that way

598
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:54,400
all of everything that we talk about

599
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,039
anything that is um hush hush that it

600
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,200
will be brought into the light things

601
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:01,120
will things will come out in a loving

602
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:03,120
kind way and people won't be scared and

603
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:05,679
we can everything can be known for what

604
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:07,520
it is i have that connection to the star

605
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,520
nation that they will provide the way

606
00:23:13,350 --> 00:23:11,760
for everything and that's what they want

607
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,360
me to do is just to go out there and

608
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,799
walk and jimmy's the networking

609
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,880
broadcast i told you jimmy i always told

610
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,480
you i said you're gonna you're who they

611
00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:20,480
want me to go through and i can't

612
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,720
explain to people if you don't know

613
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,520
about what i know then go research it

614
00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:26,880
and if you're going to question me go

615
00:23:30,630 --> 00:23:28,960
research it because these are my own

616
00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:30,640
personal experience and communications

617
00:23:34,710 --> 00:23:32,400
that i have with the star nation and i

618
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,720
don't discredit them i am very loyal and

619
00:23:38,789 --> 00:23:36,559
respectful to them because they make

620
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:38,799
things happen and that's what's going to

621
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,960
happen jimmy is my parents told me when

622
00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,640
you get home from washington trading

623
00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:44,240
your life is not going to be the same

624
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,440
you're going to have so many people

625
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:47,760
wanting you to endorse things and be a

626
00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:49,520
part of their humanity anything and

627
00:23:53,669 --> 00:23:51,600
speak for them and put your name on

628
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,679
stuff i said it's okay whatever as long

629
00:23:57,750 --> 00:23:55,600
as it's bringing awareness to the planet

630
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,760
but definitely jimmy church is going to

631
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:59,600
get recognition because he's the one

632
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,679
that could take it to washington and i

633
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:03,520
was giggling at first thinking yeah i'm

634
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:05,360
not gonna walk all the way and then when

635
00:24:09,270 --> 00:24:07,360
i got to rapid city and i met with this

636
00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:09,280
organization they said let's go let's

637
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:10,480
take his challenge let's take it to

638
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,000
washington so that's what's up right on

639
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:17,200
to rita very exciting news very exciting

640
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,000
news thank you and uh

641
00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,679
let's make it happen let's make it

642
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:23,120
happen we will

643
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:25,279
i will stay in contact with you and i

644
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,679
will post on twitter and since we're

645
00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:29,840
friends on facebook now anything i do if

646
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,240
you and rita i will post stuff on there

647
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:34,159
just like it or heart it so that i know

648
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:36,400
that you've seen it you know what i mean

649
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,880
because i i'm so busy just keeping my

650
00:24:42,070 --> 00:24:40,640
own just keeping my wits about what i

651
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:42,080
got to do there's a lot of stuff we have

652
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,679
to prepare in the next four weeks to get

653
00:24:47,669 --> 00:24:45,679
this off the road and going we already

654
00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,679
said we're leaving rain or sunshine we

655
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,440
got five hundred dollars in our pocket

656
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,720
we don't care we're leaving we're like

657
00:24:54,630 --> 00:24:52,240
we're going well

658
00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:54,640
it'll be provided as we go there you go

659
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:57,039
torito's walking to washington dc thank

660
00:25:02,630 --> 00:24:58,000
you

661
00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:02,640
guys have a good night everybody bye

662
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:04,720
right back at you wow that's amazing

663
00:25:10,549 --> 00:25:06,720
that's amazing that's cool

664
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,559
june 7th the trek starts

665
00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:13,600
all the way to washington d.c

666
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:15,360
treat is amazing have you seen the

667
00:25:19,830 --> 00:25:18,400
pictures of uh baby martin remember when

668
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:19,840
he was born

669
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:22,880
wearing the fade to black uh baby onesie

670
00:25:27,029 --> 00:25:25,440
remember that look at him now

671
00:25:28,630 --> 00:25:27,039
grown up

672
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,640
go check it out right now on twitter

673
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,720
i'll be right back it's fade to black

674
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:32,159
fader night

675
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,110
more of your phone calls are next stay

676
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:39,279
with me

677
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:42,080
you're listening to a preview of fade to

678
00:25:46,390 --> 00:25:44,080
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679
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:46,400
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680
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:49,200
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681
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:51,919
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682
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683
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,310
welcome back fade to black fader night

684
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:02,400
it's not thursday night tonight is

685
00:26:07,669 --> 00:26:04,240
tuesday but we've got fader night going

686
00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:07,679
on tonight open lines all night long

687
00:26:11,330 --> 00:26:09,679
seven four seven

688
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:11,340
eight

689
00:26:21,669 --> 00:26:19,750
and i want everybody to go over uh to

690
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,679
twitter really quick uh before i go back

691
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,799
to the phones

692
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,679
and check out the pictures uh today was

693
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:27,600
mate meyer's birthday

694
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:28,799
and

695
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:31,120
somehow we got pictures of his son

696
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:32,240
martin

697
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,200
twitter and check it out hashtag f2b uh

698
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,120
you can follow me right there too church

699
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,440
radio and i just posted it up there and

700
00:26:47,350 --> 00:26:44,240
retweeted uh but that these are

701
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:47,360
absolutely incredible pictures and

702
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,240
i want one of those coffee mugs

703
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:52,240
i don't want i like the new shirts too

704
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,039
those are really really cool

705
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,120
but you got to go check out baby martin

706
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,840
right now and do it over on twitter very

707
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,520
very cool okay let's get back to the

708
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:03,279
phones hi you're live on fade to black

709
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:05,200
who's calling

710
00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,240
this is nathan in ohio hi nathan in ohio

711
00:27:12,390 --> 00:27:10,240
how are you man

712
00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:12,400
pretty good what i wanted to call you

713
00:27:15,909 --> 00:27:14,880
about was some some experiences that i

714
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:15,919
have that

715
00:27:21,669 --> 00:27:18,840
have had that speak to the nature of

716
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:21,679
dreaming and

717
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:29,750
okay all right well um

718
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,159
how do you want to start

719
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:33,600
well

720
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:37,039
i in 20 i'll just start here in 2013

721
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,200
around mid-september

722
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:41,520
i began having

723
00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,159
frequent nightmares

724
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:45,919
that had persisted

725
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:49,520
to this very day i mean it's not like an

726
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,240
everyday like constant thing it was at

727
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,600
first

728
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:56,080
but it's kind of trickled down now that

729
00:28:04,710 --> 00:28:01,669
it is that

730
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,720
without going into any specific dream

731
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,360
i would like to say that

732
00:28:11,830 --> 00:28:09,600
with with each dream

733
00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:11,840
it was like certain memories about a

734
00:28:15,990 --> 00:28:13,440
past abduction

735
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,000
would resurface like it was the key to a

736
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,000
piece of my knowledge that had been

737
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:20,559
blocked out of my mind

738
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,320
not that the context of the dream was

739
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,919
about aliens it was more in the

740
00:28:26,789 --> 00:28:25,840
symbolism and then

741
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:26,799
just

742
00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:29,200
causing my brain to realize that things

743
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,640
were happening

744
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:32,880
and it really shed light on the fact

745
00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,760
that i'd had contacts my whole life

746
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,000
and it also

747
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,720
opened me up to have experiences with

748
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,120
things like shadow people

749
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,960
and

750
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,240
uh

751
00:28:50,070 --> 00:28:48,559
like beings

752
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:50,080
things like that

753
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,760
and it was a very it's a very cons it

754
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:54,159
was a very stressful time because it

755
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:56,000
happened suddenly

756
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:57,440
i actually spent some time in the

757
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,000
hospital about a year or two afterwards

758
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,640
because it was just such a constant

759
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,720
i was constantly having these nightmares

760
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,200
these dreams that didn't feel

761
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,520
like they were part of my

762
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:11,039
consciousness like some other

763
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,360
consciousness was directing them and

764
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:15,120
placing them in my head at a certain

765
00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:21,669
such as

766
00:29:29,750 --> 00:29:28,710
me and my mom are taking a drive through

767
00:30:45,190 --> 00:29:29,760
a

768
00:30:48,789 --> 00:30:45,200
they kind of

769
00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:50,870
and i have that kind of reoccurring

770
00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:56,470
what do you think ultimately is going on

771
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:03,110
i really believe

772
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,440
that especially when you read because

773
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,440
i've never done dmt or anything like

774
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:09,520
that i've done some mushrooms in my life

775
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,760
but i've never done dft

776
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:13,440
but you hear about

777
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,240
how

778
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,000
people have experiences in other

779
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,320
dimensions and you hear about how

780
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:20,399
ancient cultures especially in south

781
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,840
america

782
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,760
have

783
00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,200
they probably would

784
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,480
regard

785
00:31:30,870 --> 00:31:28,480
a lot of the entities that we talk about

786
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,880
in ufology and probably would recognize

787
00:31:34,870 --> 00:31:32,720
a lot of them if we showed them to them

788
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,880
i would think

789
00:31:40,509 --> 00:31:37,440
just because i think consciousness is

790
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:40,519
such a big part of how first of all how

791
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:43,600
extraterrestrial they're getting here

792
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:46,799
and i also think it's a big part of

793
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:48,799
how i mean obviously it's a big part of

794
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,440
how we process reality around us i think

795
00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:53,679
dreams are just

796
00:31:58,830 --> 00:31:56,320
part of uh

797
00:32:01,830 --> 00:31:58,840
if they're not just our brain and our

798
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:01,840
soul and our consciousness trying to

799
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:04,320
work itself out

800
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:05,440
then

801
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:08,399
sometimes there's a place for

802
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:13,909
because it's kind of infrequent that

803
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:16,159
people remember their dreams i mean i'll

804
00:32:20,789 --> 00:32:17,519
have like

805
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,799
four or five dreams in one night because

806
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:23,039
the each one is crazy enough to wake me

807
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:25,360
up and i go back to sleep and i have

808
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,480
another one

809
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:28,159
right

810
00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:37,840
the ability to remember dreams uh

811
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:39,919
well for me it's easy

812
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:41,440
uh

813
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:44,240
for others it's it's very very very

814
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:46,159
difficult there are there are times

815
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:49,039
where when i i know that i'll wake up

816
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,760
out of a pretty vivid dream

817
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:54,000
and then a few seconds later just go

818
00:32:57,509 --> 00:32:55,760
what what wait a minute what was i

819
00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,519
dreaming about and i have trouble

820
00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,120
recalling it

821
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:02,720
um and and and that part does happen

822
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,519
but it's the other the majority

823
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,919
especially with me uh the majority of

824
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:09,120
the dreams

825
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:10,480
i do remember

826
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:11,360
and

827
00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:17,600
scene or dialogue or

828
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:19,919
any problems visualizing it

829
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:23,279
but what i have a problem with

830
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,799
is associating those dreams uh with my

831
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:28,559
own life

832
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:31,519
or or how how is there a connection and

833
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:34,000
i know that the connections are there

834
00:34:11,510 --> 00:33:35,039
i

835
00:34:13,190 --> 00:34:11,520
these dreams because

836
00:34:15,750 --> 00:34:13,200
mentally and emotionally these are

837
00:34:17,190 --> 00:34:15,760
things that i need to deal with uh from

838
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,200
my past

839
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:19,599
and and that stuff that i just that

840
00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,440
that's the stuff that i keep to myself

841
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:23,520
personally i don't discuss it

842
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:26,320
i don't just discuss it with anybody

843
00:34:31,829 --> 00:34:29,119
but um uh but the other the

844
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:31,839
entertainment part of my dreaming

845
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,879
uh i'm not so sure what the connection

846
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:36,560
is to real life

847
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,960
you know and the other part because when

848
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,399
i do dream

849
00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:42,000
occasionally

850
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:46,480
about ufos or egypt or or things

851
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:50,960
uh in large part those dreams i think

852
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:53,679
occur because of

853
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:56,399
the movie i watched that night

854
00:35:03,030 --> 00:34:59,359
right or something that i fell asleep to

855
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:03,040
and that is affecting what i am dreaming

856
00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:04,160
about

857
00:35:09,430 --> 00:35:08,000
not necessarily an an et contact you

858
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,440
know but that's me that's my own

859
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:11,599
personal experiences now others out

860
00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,359
there like yourself that are going

861
00:35:15,750 --> 00:35:14,800
through something

862
00:35:19,349 --> 00:35:15,760
uh

863
00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,359
much deeper and much more significant

864
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,839
um that's that's something that we've

865
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:23,680
got to try and figure out and that's why

866
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,160
i'm asking you what is the significance

867
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,680
of it is this part of uh

868
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,400
what is going on while you are sleeping

869
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,839
that you don't know about that's

870
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:36,160
something that's going on externally

871
00:35:40,710 --> 00:35:38,720
you know is it that oh i i know for a

872
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:40,720
fact that i've

873
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,960
been i've been in the process of having

874
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,640
these dreams

875
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:47,119
woken up in a paralysis state and had

876
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:50,079
shadow people in my room right

877
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,920
like they are the being that's causing

878
00:35:55,910 --> 00:35:53,680
me to have this dream

879
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:55,920
very frequently i feel like

880
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,800
things like that are slightly vampiric

881
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:00,960
and they might possibly

882
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:03,520
take somebody like me who hasn't

883
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:04,240
had

884
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:05,760
let's just call it

885
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,160
something close to lucid dreaming

886
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:12,640
i'm trying to get the hang of how to

887
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:15,280
move around in my dreams but

888
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:18,320
it's a slow going process

889
00:36:23,589 --> 00:36:19,680
right right

890
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:23,599
but but i've woken up to have

891
00:36:29,190 --> 00:36:26,720
shadow people that i've had to react to

892
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:29,200
because they

893
00:36:32,710 --> 00:36:30,880
they show up

894
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:32,720
but then i have

895
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,040
memories that these dreams helps me see

896
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:39,599
basically through deja vu because they

897
00:36:45,510 --> 00:36:42,160
were dreams that i'd had

898
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:45,520
before at some point too

899
00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:48,160
so it i mean it's it's a pretty complex

900
00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:49,359
thing

901
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:51,440
it's just been part of my life for so

902
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:55,040
long now right do you uh

903
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:56,800
do you know what you're going to dream

904
00:37:05,829 --> 00:37:03,349
no not at all not i really don't

905
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:05,839
i i've even experimented with like not

906
00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:08,160
listening to fade to black for a while

907
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,200
or

908
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:11,200
not listening to you know coast to coast

909
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,040
for a while i've also

910
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:15,200
experimented with not i mean i don't

911
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,520
really watch much television

912
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:19,359
i don't really i mean i take in the

913
00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:22,720
internet but i i'm not on social media

914
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:24,880
i'm a fairly i'm a good target for

915
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,640
aliens because i know i'm not very

916
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:33,109
yeah yeah yeah very interesting um

917
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:34,320
have you

918
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:35,200
uh

919
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:38,400
before but

920
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,280
have you ever tried to communicate with

921
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,839
uh these beings or these entities have

922
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,560
you spoken to them

923
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,200
i i wouldn't say i've spoken to them but

924
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:51,119
i've definitely had interactions that

925
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:53,040
i've

926
00:37:55,750 --> 00:37:54,240
uh

927
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,760
initiated

928
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:57,680
but the only times that that has

929
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,880
happened is if i literally

930
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,839
forced my will to be i mean it happened

931
00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:05,520
a lot while i was going through this

932
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,480
because i was in such a state

933
00:38:12,310 --> 00:38:10,640
of anxiety over it

934
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:12,320
and i don't even think i could naturally

935
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,880
work myself up to it

936
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:16,560
but i've

937
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,520
basically oh i i i think i opened a

938
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:21,839
portal in my house

939
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,430
no specific rituals

940
00:38:33,349 --> 00:38:30,000
just i'm just basically

941
00:38:35,829 --> 00:38:33,359
using my own will and i and some things

942
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,839
come through this i i because i because

943
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,839
it wasn't a ritual

944
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,920
i don't know how to close it

945
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,000
so i have things that

946
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:43,920
happen around the house

947
00:38:49,270 --> 00:38:47,760
like time anomalies and things like that

948
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:49,280
that

949
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:53,680
happening in the real world too

950
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,560
so i know there's a have you had uh

951
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:57,520
somebody

952
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:00,800
come over and spend the night a friend

953
00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:01,599
yes

954
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:04,960
to go through these experiences with you

955
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:07,280
uh no i'm not i don't

956
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:09,280
like i haven't really just i don't

957
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,200
any time i've tried to discuss this with

958
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:14,480
my family or anybody like that

959
00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:16,000
is

960
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:17,760
it kind of puts a

961
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:20,400
they want to shut it down right

962
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,040
what about what about getting um

963
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:25,599
uh some webcams

964
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:27,280
set up i

965
00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:30,000
i i'm thinking about doing that yeah

966
00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,440
yeah yeah get a web get a webcam or two

967
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:35,359
and and just set them up while you're

968
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,640
sleeping

969
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,079
you never know man you could make a

970
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,240
really cool movie

971
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,320
yeah well thank you jimmy for giving me

972
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,480
such a long talk time yeah thank you

973
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:48,000
nathan and uh keep us posted man

974
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:51,599
i will thank you nathan and uh dreaming

975
00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:53,760
is uh thank you for the phone call

976
00:39:57,829 --> 00:39:56,000
dreaming is a trippy thing i've never

977
00:40:03,270 --> 00:39:57,839
really

978
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:03,280
opened up about my dreams or

979
00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,160
or

980
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,160
you know what i go through

981
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,359
i've only done it on this show and

982
00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,280
uh it's

983
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,760
dreaming is a very personal thing for

984
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:15,359
all of us

985
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,800
you know what you drink what you really

986
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:20,160
dream

987
00:40:26,310 --> 00:40:24,640
you don't discuss that with anybody i

988
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:26,320
don't care who you are

989
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,720
the real stuff

990
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:30,400
it's very personal

991
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,599
and some of it is very very trippy that

992
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,040
goes down

993
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:37,599
you know and and some of it can be very

994
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,000
scary i i

995
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,720
um i remember um

996
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,280
uh i used to oh and i've got some very

997
00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:47,280
excellent questions here

998
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:49,920
that have popped in on twitter and i'm

999
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:52,880
going to uh get to them

1000
00:40:59,589 --> 00:40:56,240
uh i promise our scott i've got your

1001
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,599
question here and eddie in pennsylvania

1002
00:41:03,670 --> 00:41:02,079
um i've got your very excellent question

1003
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,680
here too as well what is this turning

1004
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,720
into

1005
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:06,720
is this fader night is this like the

1006
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,960
fader night ama night where these

1007
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,720
questions are coming in

1008
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,319
uh via twitter

1009
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,920
but if you guys want these questions

1010
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,040
answered

1011
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:16,960
uh they're both excellent by the way and

1012
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:19,680
i call them both so i will get to those

1013
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:23,440
um but uh i i used to have

1014
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:24,880
uh

1015
00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,800
this one and it was to me it was so

1016
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,560
scary

1017
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,880
and i couldn't stop the dream right i'll

1018
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:34,880
get to that part in a second

1019
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,920
and then two things happened about this

1020
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:40,560
dream that really freaked me out many

1021
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,560
many many years later

1022
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,800
uh from when i first started having the

1023
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:47,040
dreams which said to me that they

1024
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,720
weren't connected at all

1025
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:49,680
but

1026
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:53,280
i heard somebody describe

1027
00:41:58,710 --> 00:41:57,119
the exact same dream

1028
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:58,720
right and

1029
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:01,119
and this was this was this might have

1030
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:02,800
been on television

1031
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:05,760
or in a video but anyway the exact same

1032
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:07,520
dream and i thought wow that's weird i

1033
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:09,359
thought that was mine

1034
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,560
um

1035
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,079
uh

1036
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:14,240
and well anyway

1037
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,720
so and then there was a there was a part

1038
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:18,800
two but i'll get to that in a second let

1039
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:20,560
me tell you what the dream was i might

1040
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:23,119
have uh uh talked about this before on

1041
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,240
the show

1042
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:25,760
but

1043
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:30,560
uh it's a dream of me and my friends um

1044
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:34,240
going up this is when we were teenagers

1045
00:42:41,109 --> 00:42:37,760
going up this bunker literally a bunker

1046
00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,119
on an island uh down in panama

1047
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:43,520
and it was a military installation that

1048
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,319
was closed down but the bunkers inside

1049
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,480
of this hill on this island were all

1050
00:42:53,109 --> 00:42:50,319
still there all the offices and these

1051
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,119
long complex hallways and stuff and the

1052
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,280
entrances to the bunker uh you could

1053
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:56,800
pull up in this parking lot and there

1054
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,599
was like a a jail cell uh uh uh what do

1055
00:43:07,109 --> 00:43:03,839
you what do you call it uh you know jail

1056
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:07,119
doors right with the iron bars uh steel

1057
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:08,000
bars

1058
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,960
we could squeeze through

1059
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:14,560
and then that would be the bottom of the

1060
00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:15,760
stairwell

1061
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,880
uh staircase all concrete and then but

1062
00:43:23,589 --> 00:43:21,760
it would go up at an angle probably

1063
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:23,599
about

1064
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:27,280
100 yards 50 yards 100 yards long you

1065
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,720
know square

1066
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,480
concrete stairs that would go up and at

1067
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,640
the very top of the stairs looking up

1068
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:35,359
there's no lights or anything it's dark

1069
00:43:39,270 --> 00:43:36,880
but at the top of the stairs you could

1070
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:39,280
see the white square

1071
00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:41,520
of daylight at the top where the top of

1072
00:43:45,589 --> 00:43:43,359
the stairs were so we would have to

1073
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:45,599
ascend this took forever to get up but

1074
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:48,400
and anyway but at the top of this were

1075
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:52,079
bunkers and stuff but the dream was this

1076
00:43:58,309 --> 00:43:55,280
of us going up those stairs

1077
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,319
and then from the top of the stairs

1078
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:00,800
this little pebble and you could hear it

1079
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:03,599
would start falling on the stairs and

1080
00:44:09,750 --> 00:44:06,640
then by the time it got to us it was

1081
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,760
traveling the speed of a bullet

1082
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,599
and would shoot past us

1083
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:13,680
and we would avoid

1084
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:15,839
you know and try to get to the top of

1085
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,640
the stairs through and as closer

1086
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,480
as we got to the top

1087
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,480
the more pebbles would be coming down it

1088
00:44:26,309 --> 00:44:24,319
was like craziness and it was it was a

1089
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,319
very frightening dream

1090
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:28,800
and i would have it over and over again

1091
00:44:38,309 --> 00:44:33,680
now what does the dream ultimately mean

1092
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:38,319
and i would wake up like sweating

1093
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:40,800
you know it was frightening and

1094
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,040
um and i guess

1095
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:45,359
uh although i never saw it there was

1096
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:48,240
somebody up there or something up there

1097
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,400
with these pebbles uh

1098
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:52,240
kicking them down the stairs

1099
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,160
and by the time they got to us you know

1100
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:55,760
they would uh

1101
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,599
would kill you i guess

1102
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,400
but that's that's now what's the

1103
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:02,480
symbolism of that dream

1104
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,440
why have it over and over again

1105
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:07,440
i don't know

1106
00:45:14,230 --> 00:45:11,280
you know i simply do not know

1107
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,240
there is something to it about trying to

1108
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:15,760
get to the top

1109
00:45:20,309 --> 00:45:18,560
in this dream now in real life we always

1110
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:20,319
made it to the top of the stairs and we

1111
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,240
did our things in the bunkers and it was

1112
00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,280
an adventure and we did it all the time

1113
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:27,599
but what is

1114
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:31,040
uh the significance of us not getting to

1115
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,880
the top of the stairs

1116
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:35,200
never did

1117
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:40,079
you know and i i never talked about this

1118
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stuff

1119
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this dream which which happened over and

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over again throughout my life it's not

1121
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like i went to some analyst

1122
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,720
some doctor right some psychologist

1123
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:53,599
psychiatrist and discussed this dream or

1124
00:45:58,390 --> 00:45:56,319
i talked about it with friends or or

1125
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:58,400
family or whatever i never did

1126
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:01,280
i kept it to myself

1127
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all the way up to this show

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you know and what is the significance of

1129
00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:08,640
it you know and i know that there must

1130
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be something there

1131
00:46:17,589 --> 00:46:15,200
yeah kept it to myself and and other

1132
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,599
dreams uh that i used to have that you

1133
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:19,680
know really honestly

1134
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:22,319
uh bothered me a lot

1135
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:25,119
have uh they stopped

1136
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,720
they stopped

1137
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:28,720
some of the dreams i don't have anymore

1138
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,640
and i don't go and search for them i

1139
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,920
don't go

1140
00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:34,000
uh the other dreams that i want to go in

1141
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,800
and enjoy my entertainment stuff are not

1142
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:39,359
the dreams that used to freak me out

1143
00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,280
and there were just uh just over and

1144
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,200
over and over again

1145
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,640
uh these dreams that

1146
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:48,640
i i don't know why

1147
00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:52,000
they've completely stopped

1148
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,960
yeah

1149
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,200
very very strange stuff dreams are

1150
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,200
unbelievable all right if you're on hold

1151
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,480
stay right there

1152
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:01,280
this is fader night it is tuesday night

1153
00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:03,359
i know what you're thinking it's tuesday

1154
00:47:08,550 --> 00:47:05,760
night uh what's going on here it's

1155
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:08,560
tuesday it's not thursday i know richard

1156
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,400
dolan is going to be here with us on

1157
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:13,359
thursday night we're doing fader night

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00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,230
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1159
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:24,480
your host jimmy church more of your

1160
00:47:30,950 --> 00:47:27,920
phone calls are next

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00:47:36,950 --> 00:47:30,960
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00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,560
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00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:55,040
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